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Pope Francis embodies the Gospel; he loves the poor and the people

Despite being an atheist, Dominique Wolton spent hours talking with Pope Francis, which resulted in an unprecedented dialogue and a book. In 2017, the author spoke with L’Orient-Le Jour.

Pope Francis embodies the Gospel; he loves the poor and the people

A silhouette of Pope Francis installed in the Sanctuary of the Divine Child in Bogota, Colombia, on April 21, 2025. (Credit: Luisa Gonzalez/Reuters)

As the Vatican announced on the morning of April 21, 2025, the death of Pope Francis at the age of 88, we offer you a (re)reading of this interview, published in 2017.For a year and a half, he "danced" with Pope Francis. French, atheist, secular, sociologist and obsessed with the challenges of communication in the 21st century, Dominique Wolton fulfilled the dream of more than a billion faithful: to meet with the pontiff 12 times to discuss his journey, his faith, his vision, his fears, his apprehension of all the great challenges of his time. What emerged was a dialogue as rich as it was spontaneous, sometimes deliberately unstructured, allowing for a better understanding of what was happening in the Pope's mind and what his pontificate represented in the long history of the church. The two men enjoyed meeting, enjoyed the...
As the Vatican announced on the morning of April 21, 2025, the death of Pope Francis at the age of 88, we offer you a (re)reading of this interview, published in 2017.For a year and a half, he "danced" with Pope Francis. French, atheist, secular, sociologist and obsessed with the challenges of communication in the 21st century, Dominique Wolton fulfilled the dream of more than a billion faithful: to meet with the pontiff 12 times to discuss his journey, his faith, his vision, his fears, his apprehension of all the great challenges of his time. What emerged was a dialogue as rich as it was spontaneous, sometimes deliberately unstructured, allowing for a better understanding of what was happening in the Pope's mind and what his pontificate represented in the long history of the church. The two men enjoyed meeting, enjoyed...
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